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paul ryan lost his, janesville, wisconsin. how does that happen? you've got to be saying something wrong. >> mitt romney lost all of his hometowns. and there are many. there are many of them. mike allen, great to talk to you. thanks so much. >> see you soon. >> we'll see you. >>> "new york times" magazine mark leibovich and peter alexander join us next. more "morning joe" in a moment. anncr: some politicians seem to think medicare and... social security are just numbers in a budget. well, we worked hard for those benefits. we earned them. and if washington tries to cram decisions about the future... of these programs into a last minute budget deal... we'll all pay the price. aarp is fighting to protect seniors with responsible... solutions that strengthen medicare and... social security for generations to come. we can do better than a last minute deal... that would hurt all of us. sven gets great rewards for his small business! how does this thing work? oh, i like it! [ garth ] sven's small business earns 2% cash back on every purchase, every day!
paul ryan lost his, janesville, wisconsin. how does that happen? you've got to be saying something wrong. >> mitt romney lost all of his hometowns. and there are many. there are many of them. mike allen, great to talk to you. thanks so much. >> see you soon. >> we'll see you. >>> "new york times" magazine mark leibovich and peter alexander join us next. more "morning joe" in a moment. anncr: some politicians seem to think medicare and... social...
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you know how now have paul ryan coming back to the house. he has more credibility, more sway with the conservatives than anyone. and now he's probably running for president. and if paul ryan is running for president from the house, he is going to have no incentive to make a deal with president obama. it's a big deal, and it's a factor that could really mitigate against any kind of a quick deal. >> interesting new dynamic there. mike allen, ladies and gentlemen, mike allen. thank you very much. >> mike, thank you. >> great coverage. thank y'all. >>> coming up, chris matthews and mark mckinnon will be here. also, the reverend al sharpton. republican strategist steve schmidt and margaret carlson. andrea mitchell, thank you very much. she was up all night. up all night. >> thank you, andrea. >> thank you, andrea. and who? bye-bye, cramer. thank you so much. jim cramer, everybody. you're watching the special post-election edition of "morning joe" live from studio 8h. we'll be right back. >>> we have may have battled fiercely, but it's only becaus
you know how now have paul ryan coming back to the house. he has more credibility, more sway with the conservatives than anyone. and now he's probably running for president. and if paul ryan is running for president from the house, he is going to have no incentive to make a deal with president obama. it's a big deal, and it's a factor that could really mitigate against any kind of a quick deal. >> interesting new dynamic there. mike allen, ladies and gentlemen, mike allen. thank you very...
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.í♪ sometimes you win ♪ ♪ sometimes you lose ♪r >>> i want to thank paul ryan done and for our country. besides my wife ann, p. trust that his intellect and his hard work and his commitment to principle will continue to contribute to the good of our nation. >> i thank my friend and partner of the last four america's happy best vice president anybody could hope for, joe biden!. 29 past the hour. a stion m studio 8h inj2 rockefeller center. by the way, look who's here. this is huge. >> joining nous ój andrea former chairman of the republican national committee, michael steele. and msnbc political analyst and visiting professor at democratic congressman harold ford jr. and host of "mad money"nu on cnbc jim cramer. >> and by the way,a ming. andrea mitchell came up to me mika spoken like aieve that for you must win florida and north carolina. >> so how awe? >> i don't think that's true but i'm going to talk lawyerwyers. but thanink that's supporting. >> i think when axelrod on thursday we ought to try and nego new era of oa bipartisanship has begun -- >> yes. could use your diate. >> i dou
.í♪ sometimes you win ♪ ♪ sometimes you lose ♪r >>> i want to thank paul ryan done and for our country. besides my wife ann, p. trust that his intellect and his hard work and his commitment to principle will continue to contribute to the good of our nation. >> i thank my friend and partner of the last four america's happy best vice president anybody could hope for, joe biden!. 29 past the hour. a stion m studio 8h inj2 rockefeller center. by the way, look who's here....
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. >> he's an ally of paul ryan and sits -- if you look at where he sits along -- >> interesting. >> and he's a former pollster. >> i'm not being critical of tom cole. >> i know you're not. having the guts but as a guy that abhors raising taxes, if we're going to raise taxes, i say we raise taxes after we get the other side agreeing they'll save medicare. that they'll save medicaid and social security. that they're going to cut discretionary spending. you know, i will pay more taxes and americans will pay more taxes but not just so they can cop out like so many governors do and not make tough cuts. >> i talked to really severe republicans in the south and alabama and arkansas and they say the same thing and say we're prepared to do that but not unless there's some significant cuts on the other side but they are. talking about the fact they really are -- they're prepared to raise revenue. >> if you give washington money is my opinion and give washington money with no strings attached they will not only spend that money. they will create new programs that will not only spend that money but
. >> he's an ally of paul ryan and sits -- if you look at where he sits along -- >> interesting. >> and he's a former pollster. >> i'm not being critical of tom cole. >> i know you're not. having the guts but as a guy that abhors raising taxes, if we're going to raise taxes, i say we raise taxes after we get the other side agreeing they'll save medicare. that they'll save medicaid and social security. that they're going to cut discretionary spending. you know, i...
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so apparently the whole paul ryan is the devil thing didn't latch on. but what do we do now to keep medicare -- you know, you watch the show. we talk about it all the time. how do we make medicare stronger? how do we keep it going? how do we stop it from bankrupting? >> so i think that there are, as we go forward, there are going to have to be two things that people do. the first thing is we are going to have to reduce our medicare spending. and at the center for american progress, we put out a report two weeks ago, just after the election, about how to get $385 billion saved. i think that has helped explain where the cuts would come from. >> is it all on the providers side or is some of it on the beneficiary side? >> some of it's on the beneficiary side because we do want to have wealthier medicare recipients pay more for their part "b" benefits. but i think separate from that, we also need to think about changing the system. and i would say each player needs to change. first, on the doctor side, we definitely -- or the hospital side. we definitely nee
so apparently the whole paul ryan is the devil thing didn't latch on. but what do we do now to keep medicare -- you know, you watch the show. we talk about it all the time. how do we make medicare stronger? how do we keep it going? how do we stop it from bankrupting? >> so i think that there are, as we go forward, there are going to have to be two things that people do. the first thing is we are going to have to reduce our medicare spending. and at the center for american progress, we put...
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ryan would not. so i give you great respect for the courage you've shown in the past. but if we're just going to talk this way and sort of stake out our positions on our side, we should probably move on to afghanistan or another issue. >> joe, let me be specific. what we did in simpson/bowles was to set targets for savings in this health care programs, and we must do it. and then sit down and say what are the changes we can make within the programs that don't challenge their integrity but basically reduce their costs. and we can do those. it was a long list in simpson/bowles. there were 20 options given to us. and there were many things i could support. but to sit here and tick off the two or three that would be the easy parts, i don't think it is going to be that simple. i think we've got to be able to attack the entitlement programs, but do it in a sensible way that doesn't destroy them. >> okay. we hope both sides can do that. eugene robinson, you write in "washington post" today about breaking gr
ryan would not. so i give you great respect for the courage you've shown in the past. but if we're just going to talk this way and sort of stake out our positions on our side, we should probably move on to afghanistan or another issue. >> joe, let me be specific. what we did in simpson/bowles was to set targets for savings in this health care programs, and we must do it. and then sit down and say what are the changes we can make within the programs that don't challenge their integrity but...
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democrats will say that's the paul ryan precedent, that in his medicare plan, the vast majority of all changes take place a decade from now. so republicans are going to have to swallow a tax increase today for medicare cuts on a faraway tomorrow. and as far as what those tax cuts look like, there's going to be a tax rate increase, certainly in the short term. and if you just look at the -- there's an article you can link to our piece today, just look at the top 20 loopholes in deductions. and it shows that it's virtually impossible to close or change any of the most expensive ones. so you're probably going to end up with some kind of total cap on deductions or some sort of alternative minimum tax rate for rich people. so you can jack up the amount of revenue that you're getting for people making over $250,000 or $500,000, whatever the end number is. but again, if you listen to the rhetoric on camera, it sounds like well, there's no way there will be a deal. if you talk to people who have been in the room, they say calm down. it's going to be ugly, but we think we can eventually get the
democrats will say that's the paul ryan precedent, that in his medicare plan, the vast majority of all changes take place a decade from now. so republicans are going to have to swallow a tax increase today for medicare cuts on a faraway tomorrow. and as far as what those tax cuts look like, there's going to be a tax rate increase, certainly in the short term. and if you just look at the -- there's an article you can link to our piece today, just look at the top 20 loopholes in deductions. and...